Brake Upgrade

[k-huevo]

I read the post about this morning’s ride and the enthusiasm about the experience was evident. There was also an expressed disappointment with brake performance. Before you opt for a BBK, try better pads and fluid. Ferodo DS2500 pads are outstanding performers on the street. They produce a little less dust, are very fade resistant with the only drawback being occasional squeal. ATE Super Blue Racing brake fluid is a very high temp fluid with low hydroscopic properties; it is an excellent stock fluid replacement. You can improve on pedal feel if the brakes are bled well and firmer still if the stock brake lines are swapped for braided stainless steel ones.

Of course, the excessive brake dust produced by the stock pads is a concern to most of us at first and the EBC GreenStuff are a common replacement choice. I tried the GreenStuff pads and they were scarily poor hill country performers. The EBC pads did produce less dust but they dusted also, just differently. When one needs to stop, one wants to stop very badly and it matters not how dirty the wheels are.

[Will]

Good suggestions.. I might try better fluid and steel lines before going all out. I dont care about brake dust as long as the car stops :)

[leonsrocketcar]

I use powerslots, SS lines, blue, and 2500s with stock calps. They rock n the Houston traffice and do well on the track in the summer heat. I also recommend as a low cost upgrade. Don't jump into BBKs until you get to the track and then only after you move up in category.

Alot of good queries on this fourm, keep them coming!

[scuderia]

Yeah, today told us clearly that the brakes need a little more help, k-huevo. When we meet I have thousands of questions for you.

[Will]

I use powerslots, SS lines, blue, and 2500s with stock calps. They rock n the Houston traffice and do well on the track in the summer heat. I also recommend as a low cost upgrade. Don't jump into BBKs until you get to the track and then only after you move up in category.

Alot of good queries on this fourm, keep them coming!

Actually I was looking at that package on webbsmotorsports, Not a bad deal for what you get it seems. Definately need more stopping power or atleast some that wont fade as easily.

[k-huevo]

We talked a little about the benefits of gas slotted rotors last night at the get together and I failed to mention the benefits of the stock non-slotted rotors.

The reasons for having slots or holes in the rotors are to allow boundary layer gases and brake pad debris a method for escape. The drawback is the interrupted surface is less efficient at conducting heat. The stock’s solid face is superior at reducing heat in that regard. Having directional veins sandwiched within the rotors would be even better but that adds costs that are prohibitive to OEM production. Another drawback is rigidity; any slot or hole is a potential stress riser and likely place for a crack to form.

In a nutshell, the stock rotors are fine for the vast majority of street situations.

[leonsrocketcar]

You should see the fractures on my brother's vette. looks like a cracked mirror. getting them replaced this week.

before you spend tons of money replacing brakes, I would upgrade the fluid (blue) and see how that goes on your fun runs.

[Bomboasy]

I am hoping to install this in my car, to improve braking.

http://www.tyrolsport.com/mini.htm

Has anyone here seen this in the MINI. Any comments are welcomed.

Bomboasy

[scuderia]

never seen on a Mini before